Jehovah will just make everyone really small... except the elders they'll stay the same size, and if you get out of line they'll dig you in your tiny chest with a big pencil like on Land Of The Giants.
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The earth can hold only 9 billion persons at the most
by cultswatter in*** public address by district overseer bro.
charles sunutko in spring 1967 in sheboygan, wisconsin[recording of this talk available in realaudio format, 2,745kb, approx 22 minute recording].
"serving with everlasting life in view"............. "the watchtower 1964, page 722, paragraph 24, and listen to this: "tens of billions will be back".. how many are tens of billions?
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Is the Watchtower happy being stagnant?
by RULES & REGULATIONS instagnant.
adj.not moving or flowing; motionless.
foul or stale from standing: stagnant ponds.showing little or no sign of activity or advancement; not developing or progressing; inactive: a stagnant economy the sunday talks are copy and paste .the watchtower study is the same.ask the preprinted questions and answer.the ministry school is reading the same parts of the bible.the service program has the same dull presentations.the book study has some books being read 3 - 4 times.. is the watchtower society happy with being stagnant and just going thru the motions?
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I agree with James Woods that the WBTS is reticent of bringing out new light or saying anything that could engender questions or debate. So they have to rehash the mundane drivel they've ingrained into the JW consciousness over the years.
The average JW seems quite happy with the satus quo though. They're like automatons going through the meeting - field service - meeting - field service routine until the big A comes and ushers in their wonderful new life or puts them out of their misery.
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Poll:What is the "average" age of people's baptism in the org?
by megsmomma ini was 14....and that seems pretty common for those that were in it young....... .
how in the world is a 14 year old ready to commit themselves to anything life altering?.
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I was 15. I thought getting baptized I'd gain a renewed spirituality. Didn't happen though.
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Anyone Into Astronomy?
by lovelylil inmy kids are really interested in astronomy lately and it has never been my area of expertise.
they don't do much in school on it, just a few basics.
so i thought we could do more at home.
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A program called Celestia is a lot of fun. It's a 3D universe that you can fly around in and explore.
You can download it here -
http://www.shatters.net/celestia/download.html
You can also download extra detailed planet maps, satellites, space stations etc for it.
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Ubunto/Linux os?
by Gadget indoes anyone here use the ubunto os?
i've been reading a bit about it, and have a spare hard drive i can install it on to experiment without risking my data so i fancy giving it a try.. the main things that concern me are ease of use/setup (once i get used to it), and compatability with other software i use.
for example, will the driver for my modem/printer/scanner/etc be compatable?.
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I have Ubuntu installed on a seperate machine and XP/Vista on the other. I wouldn't recommend dual booting Ubuntu/Windows although it is theoretically possible. I tried it and because Ubuntu didn't fully support my new SATA hard drives it installed a corrupted OS and messed up the master boot record. It took some sorting out.
Once Ubuntu is installed though it's pretty good. It's bundled with lots of useful apps but one drawback already mentioned is lack of drivers. I run a LAMP server on my Ubuntu box and it works without a hitch. Other than that I use the Linux machine just to learn more about Linux.
If your a bit of a PC techie it's fun to learn linux but there's nothing in Linux distributions that you can't do in XP.
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What sorts of books or other material do you read?
by zagor ini dont think i have a particular style.
in fact it changed through different stages of my life.
as a kid i loved reading novels, which changed once i came into my teens, and i started developing interest in hard stuff of natural world, psychology, ancient cultures and mysteries.
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I tend to read a lot of science material especially physics and astronomy as well as books on politics, British history, philosophy and theology.
I'm currently reading The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene and Warped Passages by Lisa Randall. I'm also re-reading the Complete Prose of Woody Allen, which is quite possibly the funniest book ever written.
My dad is an avid geneoligist and although most of the relatives he's discovered have been blacksmiths, boot makers, chimney sweeps or some other mundane characters he's found a 3rd cousin called Rory Stewart who seems to be the most intelligent guy in the family ever.
I'm hoping to pick up his book The Places In Between from the local library tomorrow. Makes me feel like a real under-achiever when I read his biog -Rory Stewart OBE, born 1973, is a Scottish writer. He was born in Hong Kong, raised in Malaysia and educated at Eton and Balliol College, Oxford, where he studied history and philosophy.
After a brief period as an officer in the British Infantry (the Black Watch) , Stewart joined the Foreign Office. He served in the British Embassy in Indonesia from 1997 to 1999, as the British Representative to Montenegro in the wake of the Kosovo campaign and as Coalition Deputy Governor of Amarah and Senior Advisor in Nasiriyah, Iraq during 2003–2004. From 2004, he was a Fellow at the Carr Centre for Human Rights Policy, Harvard University, USA. He has travelled extensively, notably in Iraq and Afghanistan. From 2000-2002 he walked on foot across Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, India and Nepal, a journey of 6000 miles.
His first book, The Places in Between, was a critically applauded account of his experiences in Afghanistan. It won the Royal Society of Literature Ondaatje Prize, a Scottish Arts Council prize and the Spirit of Scotland award in 2005 and was short-listed for the Guardian First Book Award and the John Llewlyn Rhys prize.
His second book, The Prince of the Marshes: And Other Occupational Hazards of a Year in Iraq, outlines his experiences as deputy governor of the Iraqi provinces of Amarah and Nasiriyah shortly after coalition forces entered Iraq and describes his struggles to establish a functional government in these regions.
Stewart, whose family come from Perthshire, has been awarded the OBE. Stewart currently lives in Kabul, where he is the Chief Executive of The Turquoise Mountain Foundation, which is building a school for traditional masonry, tile-work, wood-work, and plasterwork in Herat, Afghanistan. The foundation has received financial support from Aga Khan IV, the School of Traditional Arts in London, and other sources.
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Katrina disaster relief one of the Society's biggest moneymakers?
by ithinkisee ini wrote this almost two years ago (link).
this was before katrina hit new orleans:.
.and i just thought they were so on top of disaster relief around the world because they cared.. .
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Very interesting post. Even when I was a JW the WTS boasting about the charity work it did after disasters rang hollow.
The purported 'charity' work of the WTS is what winds me up the most about the org now. The JW's in disaster hit areas might as well have MUG written on their heads if they are doing the repairs and paying the org for the privelege.It's these sort of examples that make me think the org is not run by just a set of well meaning but misdirected people but by cynical, self serving megalomaniacs.
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Why animals die?
by EzroJP ini know why human beings die, but why animals die?.
did they commit anything wrong according to the laws of god, so they have to die?.
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When you're in the new system and your pet panda dies will you be sad?
Unhappiness is no more so you must just go 'Oh well, another hole to dig I suppose. I think I'll get a lion next'. -
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The Blind Watchmaker - Dawkins
by mavie ini'm about halfway through this book.
i understand dawkin's general thesis here, and i think it is sound.
however, i still am having a hard time understanding a couple things..
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Organisms that reproduce sexually do not experience genetic changes. All changes occur in offspring during reproduction
That's not strictly true but you're right in that procreation generates the most obvious changes in genes. Gene mutations can be either inherited from a parent or acquired. A hereditary mutation is a mistake that is present in the DNA of virtually all body cells. Hereditary mutations are called germline mutations because the gene change exists in the reproductive cells and can be passed from generation to generation, and the mutation is copied every time body cells divide.
Acquired mutations called somatic mutations, are changes in DNA that develop throughout a person's life. In contrast to hereditary mutations, somatic mutations arise in the DNA of individual cells; the genetic errors are passed only to direct descendants of those cells. Mutations are often the result of errors that crop up during cell division, when the cell is making a copy of itself and dividing into two and cells divide a lot. Acquired mutations can also be the byproducts of environmental stresses. Also different genes do different things, as you know, so some mutations will be neutral if they are to an unimportant gene and others will be dramatic especially if they are to a hox gene.
You've brought up some good points Mavie. Mutation rates and which genes are important to natural selection and hox genes are hot topics at the moment in biology.
A Dawkins book I would recommend is The Ancestors Tale. It's takes a journey from present day man all the way back to the simplest life forms explaining the evolutionary changes along the way.
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what will happen after armageddon!
by jinjam ini was talking to my sis, and we came up with this!
if we will be living for hundreds or thousands of years in "paradise", no death, no sickness, no war, no pestilence, no hunger," the former things will have passed away" don't remember the chapter or verse in the nwt, and what about the "raised from the dead" won't the world become overpopulated, remembered talking to my mom about it when we were little and she said it would never happen?
our reasoning
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This kind of ties in with the WTS teaching that the resurrected can't marry. No marraige = no sex. So the vast majority will be essentially eunuchs and the rest wear some sort of spiritual prophylactic sent down by holy spirit or something cos as has previously been mentioned the earth is pretty full up anyway. Either that or there will be a lot of jealousy going on.
I think that's still the current teaching about the resurrected and marraige. Is this correct Blondie or have they changed their explanation of what Jesus said to the pharisees?